In this weeks episode of Across All Worlds we welcome long term friend and host of the Good Dirt, Bill Winn to sit down with Baxter and Jason to explore the sacred-secular divide that has shaped so much of Christian thinking. 

From hilarious tales of roosters and bees to profound moments about porta potties and car repairs, Baxter, Jason and Bill unpack how the presence of the Father, Son and Spirit infuses all of life—not just church services or “religious” activities. Together they challenge the false split between sacred and secular, showing how every vocation, and every moment in life can all be seen as sacred as we participate in the great life and dance of the the Father, Son and Spirit. 

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Richard Murray: https://thegoodnessofgod.com/

Bill Thrasher: https://www.facebook.com/groups/444411502587439

Fred Young: https://eschurch.com/

Randy Elstrott: https://www.randyelstrott.com/

Mike Zenker: www.hopefellowshipycc.com

To Donate:

USA:    https://eschurch.com/donate   ( check ‘Still Growing in Grace’  box )

CANADA:   https://growingingrace.ca/

Weekly Blog and previous content: https://mikezenker.blog/

Panelist & Guest Info And Links

Richard Murray: https://thegoodnessofgod.com/

Bill Thrasher: https://www.facebook.com/groups/444411502587439

Fred Young: https://eschurch.com/

Randy Elstrott: https://www.randyelstrott.com/

Mike Zenker: www.hopefellowshipycc.com

To Donate:

USA:    https://eschurch.com/donate   ( check ‘Still Growing in Grace’  box )

CANADA:   https://growingingrace.ca/

Weekly Blog and previous content: https://mikezenker.blog/

Panelist & Guest Info And Links

Richard Murray: https://thegoodnessofgod.com/

Bill Thrasher: https://www.facebook.com/groups/444411502587439

Fred Young: https://eschurch.com/

Randy Elstrott: https://www.randyelstrott.com/

Mike Zenker: www.hopefellowshipycc.com

People argue that there is no reason for faith, and thus it is unreasonable. And yet, there are all sorts of things for which we can find no reason, especially not with the scientific method. They’re all around us. Here are a few:

1. 1. Love… At least not real love or the logic of love: self-sacrifice.
2. 2. Beauty, what the Bible calls “the Good” or the “Glorious.” You can’t reason your way to Beauty.
3. 3. Light. For light, there can be no temporal reason, but perhaps it is the reason for temporality.
4. 4. Life. Darwin did not explain life, but death. Life is a communion of self-sacrifice.
5. 5. Persons, Consciousness, Spirit. Even physicists will tell you that matter doesn’t matter, but you, the observer, do. That’s the “I” that observes “me.”
6. 6. Existence. Not things in existence, but existence. Philosophers refer to God as the Uncaused Cause or Necessary Beingness (“ousias” in Greek). Yahweh’s name is “I Am that I Am.”
7. 7. Reason. There is no reason for Reason. How could there be?

All creation is the manifestation of a Love (God) Song, the Logos (logic) of God. Music is not illogical but more “logic” than we can comprehend. And so, to appreciate Music, the Music, the Logos, must comprehend us. Physicists argue that all elementary particles are different ‘notes’ on a fundamental string, such that “The universe… is akin to a cosmic symphony,” (Brian Green). Aslan sings Narnia into existence. In Tolkien’s The Silmarillion, God through angels sings creation into existence, and when a fallen angel sings discordant notes, God Himself sings those discordant notes into a deeper harmony. The dissonance creates a longing for consonance and ecstatic delight in a deeper resonance. In the Revelation, a slaughtered lamb stands on the throne (the top of the ark) and sings meaning into the Seven Sealed Scroll as all creation worships. Reality is a dance, and if you’re not dancing to the Logos of Love, perhaps you don’t actually exist. When you nail the Logos to a tree, what do you get? Sheet music, dance steps, science, and technology — it has its place, but it’s not the same as feeling happy or dancing in the moonlight.

“The Logos became flesh and we have seen his glory—grace.” Jesus lived gracefully; He lived His life like a dance. The dance fulfilled the law, although it was not at all what we expected. We had the sheet music; we had the knowledge of good and evil; we had the law in a coffin in a stone temple. We had the dance steps, but we were all surprised by the Dancer and His Dance.

What if the return of Christ isn't necessarily what we've assumed?  

Further still, what if His judgement is not at all what fundamentalism taught us?  

Continuing our journey through the original mission statement of the Church, The Apostles' Creed, we dive Head-first into two interconnected subjects that have caused more division and fear within the body of Christ than any other: the return of Christ Jesus and future judgement.  

This lecture is an excerpt from the Early Church History Series taught by GGS President, Dr. Matt Pandel. 

Learn more at www.globalgraceseminary.net.  

What does it really mean to be "in Christ"? Join us for this weeks episode as Baxter and Jason explore our union with Christ and how this is a pre-existing reality, established by the Father, Son and Spirit, and not something achieved through faith, repentance or personal striving.